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It should go without saying, but the following is just my opinion: I watched the show and although some parts were fascinating, especially when it concerned the possibility that Jesse was not assassinated, the part that the so-called NGS played was beyond ridiculous.
It’s hard to know where to start with this silliness: We see some jokers who are members of a virtually unknown group called the National Geomantic Survey, Inc. (NGS). Internet searches for them come up with virtually nothing except a hit about someone who was apparently approached by the NPS in a bizarre story involving “Men in Black”, space aliens, ghosts, missing persons, and all kinds of insane stuff. Check out the NPS website. What you will find is a tiny rinky-dink website loaded with misspellings and grammatical errors but only vague claims about what they actually do. None of the members listed have any apparent background at all to qualify them for the type of work they claim to do and they have a virtually non-existent resume. They clearly should not even be touching important archeological or historical objects.
I contacted them with two questions: 1) When using ground penetrating radar, they found what they said appeared to be a large buried trunk in an area they believed might have buried treasure, why did they simply give up and leave when they claimed their backhoe wasn’t big enough to finish the job. Apparently, they couldn’t afford to rent large equipment even though they claim to be a professional organization who does this type of thing all the time. Heck, a local contractor would have been happy to donate the equipment. I would have paid for it! The History Channel would have certainly written a check to finish digging the hole to find what could have been the discovery of a lifetime that would have made them rich and famous. But no! They just packed up and left a big hole in the ground. Alarm bells should have been going off in any rational viewer’s mind. Let me get this straight: They were only inches or feet from what could possibly be the find of their lifetimes and what they had been supposedly seeking for years and they simply quit and leave because a backhoe can’t quite dig deep enough?!
The second question I asked them was why they were packing firearms and what the badges they wore represented. Don’t get me wrong! I’m a life member of the NRA, a member of my state rifle association, Gun Owners of America, and The 2nd Amendment Foundation. I’m not against guns. I was just curious about why they felt the need to pack firearms on private property while metal detecting.
The answers I received back were hilarious. As for leaving the hole and quitting, they only said, “The adventure continues” – whatever that means. As for the guns, the answer was, “Adventure involves danger.” Woooooooo. A couple of jokers goofing around with metal detectors in the woods think they face great danger! They would be in far more danger walking the streets of any city in the country or just driving down any road. They gave no explanation for the badges but the badges looked suspiciously like the badges that are advertised in the back of any gun magazine. They are totally useless and unnecessary. People with concealed carry or open carry permits do not need a badge. And anyone can carry a firearm on private property. But I was told carrying the weapons was their “protocol” developed over many years of experience! ?
What we have here, in my opinion, is a few guys fantasizing about being Indiana Jones. I’m surprised their protocol doesn’t require them to carry whips.
It should be obvious to anyone that these jokers had absolutely no idea what they were doing and, in my opinion, they faked their discovery of the gold coins. For example, when their metal detector indicated that it found something, did they dig where it indicated? No! They reached into a nearby hollow tree stump and, sure enough! They found what appeared to be a gold bar. How convenient! But one of the “experts” thought it was brass and didn’t even know that brass tarnishes. Whoops! Of course, we are never told what an analysis of the supposed gold revealed.
They see markings on a canyon wall and, after admitting that they have no idea how to interpret them, jump to a series of conclusions that were individually bizarre but when combined are simply ludicrous. They see a bunch of carved hatch marks in the rock and surmise that it may mean that the treasure is that many paces from a hollowed out part of the wall that they assumed was a seat. They figured that if you sat in the seat and walked the indicated number of paces in the direction you would be facing when sitting in the “seat,” you might find treasure. Now, why would someone carve a bunch of hatch marks in rock to indicate how many paces to walk to reach treasure when he could simply scratch the number instead? And why would carve clues to a treasure’s location in the rock anyway. Is this starting to sound like a kids movie – Goonies, for example? As a matter of fact, I created a much better treasure hunt for my grandchildren some years ago. It was much more convincing too.
They talk about coins being placed in Mason jars then, sure enough! A minute later they just happen to find a Mason jar and coins! What a coincidence!
Go to their website. It’s really funny. Read their qualifications. Read their resume of accomplishments. See pictures of their equipment which includes their personal cars! Notice that most of them are listed as being part of their “security.”
What in the world was The History Channel thinking of when they got involved with these jokers?
Again, that’s all my opinion. But check it out for yourself. But you will have a hard time finding information about the so-called NGS because they are virtually unknown despite their claimed years of experience. By the way, could it be that they chose the acronym “NGS” to confuse people into thinking they are somehow associated with the National Geographic Society.
What a joke!
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VIDEO of the Clay County Board of Commissioners bestowing honor upon our James colleague & friend Charlies Broomfield. Recognition begins at 2:00 min. mark.
Congratulations Charlie!!
We have hints from the Clay County Archives in charge of James Farm in Kearney, Missouri, that a road leading to the farm will be renamed Charles Broomfield Rd. Charlie was a Clay County Commissioner who took an active role in arranging the sale and transfer of James Farm from the James family to Clay County.
Cant say that I understand the significance of this.
Do you have the address of Jesse & Frank James Cabin in Paseo Robles, California?
SLAVE TRADERS AMONG OUR JAMES FAMILY . . . For a decade Stray Leaves has been researching this most distressing discovery. Finally, it’s time to bring this story to light. There’s much to report. The entire story will take time to tell. As we begin, we are also compelled to reconcile what this history means for us. More specifically for those who are now known to descend from these slave traders, whom it can be assumed never knew of this element of their ancestry, but also for the James family as a whole. The resolution will not come easy.
Forks of the Road Slave Market – Violence In Silence
ericjames.org
“Just at the Forks, where the Washington and Kingston, or Palatine roads converge, stood a low squatty frame building used during the winter monthsI ran a DNA test on all the James names I could find in these stories and didn't get 1 DNA match. My DNA is closer to Jesse than that James line is. I am looking into it being through Robert Thomason (step grandfather of Jesse Woodson James) and Julia Ann Singleton (Aunt to Jesse Woodson James).
I am a descendant of Betty G Woodson.
Waterproof, La in Tensas Parish to be more exact.
Tensas Parish. J. G. James and M. Kerrigan.
The King family. Descendants of Viking slayers. archive.org/stream/Kingswood/Kingswood%20reduced_djvu.txt
"In the middle of 1864, Captain Jason W. James was on scouting duty in the southern part of Madison Parish. About eight o'clock one morning he and his company arrived at the Plantation home of Hr. Joshua James on Roundaway Bayou, who also owned the Ione Plantation in Tensas Parish." You will have to read the rest. I am not posting it here. 😲 😲 😲 sites.rootsweb.com/~lamadiso/articles/ward/chap05.htm
And I do believe this James line is connected to Lucille Ball.
And speaking of slave traders. Nicholas Trammell is mixed in with the Carrigans somehow. www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/trammell-nicholas
And I am a descendant of Elizabeth Woodson Thomas. Wife of Captain Edmund King.
I am also showing DNA matches to the James grandparents of Jesse Woodson James and all 8 of his great grandparents. This is what I need help figuring out. All of my James DNA matches will be in the replies to this comment. In this screenshot they are all the white ones
The sons of Colonial Edmund King.
I am a descendant of Mary Joicy who was widow Woodson, mother of Elizabeth Woodson Thomas.
By the way I am not a Kerrigan by DNA. I am a Carrigan. Civil War name change. Descendant of William Michael Carrigan and Nancy Holt. Nancy Holt was the daughter of Michael Holt III and Rachel Rainey. youtu.be/IsK2eSTVW8A
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When this happens, it’s usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it’s been deleted.Where does Lucille Ball fit?
FIND-A-GRAVE BLUNDERS LEAVE JAMES FAMILY HOWLING . . . Can you spot the errata in this Find a Grave post for the grandfather of Frank & Jesse James? The most glaring deception is the photograph!
History tells us the photograph was invented about the time John M. James was dying. Neither history, nor the administrator of this posting, Charlotte Raley McConaha, can tell us is how photographic technology made its way from France to the distant American frontier to take a photo of John M. James, months before his demise.
Another imprecise miscalculation in this post is the attribution of the middle name “Martin” to John M. James. The name never has been proved by evidence. To guess the name is unreliable and wrong.
I have lived 14 years in Kansas now since retiring from the military. Metal detecting being one of my hobbies for 40+years. I couldn’t fiqure how they were passing up an item based on the readings they (detecters) give and hurring off to more “fruitful” things. I have found a gold half eagle in the sand at Avila Beach California that read pull-top.
Any guns just flop and get in the way or pull your pants up if tied down so why they would have any is beyond me.
The whole thing was a joke from the opening line “Somewhere in Kansas” and it went downhill from there.
I’ve never found silver still silver or anything in a gultch that washes out every spring as can be seen by the bare rocks in the lowest part and the roots sticking up on the tree trunks. Probably a real gullywoomper in that location being lower than the areas around it.
Sometimes people put things down an old well when they dig a new one and of course trash in outhouses but this “chest” really made me laugh. No one could dig a hole as deep as that foundation they were bulding for that poor farmer, that is if they ever finished it.
As my Wife left the room disgusted with hearing me (and I don’t blame her) tha last thing I said to her was “How can the History channel allow this”
Thanks for beating me to the punch on most of my own observations about this mess..
Two things..
1)There is no way in hell these guys actually found those coins as claimed. those coins in my experience and opinion, are without question SALTED. The purpose of the salting seems to be to further/underwrite the nonsensical claims/book deals that sell stories about paid ‘sentinels’ who will improbably take 50 bucks in stolen bullion/coin to guard millions worth of treasure, and not simply dig it up and run off to California where no one will ever find them and they will be the richest men in the state…
That location is the only topography in the area, and was a MAGNET for picnics,outings, KIDS DRINKING, HUNTERS…etc..
for many years.. anytime you put down a metal detector you are going to dig a lot of junk metal esp at a well-used location such as this. I have zero-doubt that these coins were 100% planted to further the purposes of those selling this show.
Finding this legitimately, would be the statistical likelyhood equivalent of getting attacked by a bear, and a polar bear, at the same time in midtown manhattan..
2) The first thing anyone who grew up in a rural area would think when you find a BOX BURIED on top of a hill in a rural area, as per the groundscan…
its a gravesite.
Everyone in these areas for hundreds of years takes a picturesque hillside to bury their beloved grandma/grandpa who can enjoy eternity with the sun rising on them from the top of the hill..
IF these guys really found what they claimed to find..a box buried on top of a hill.. there is one really good likelyhood for what that was = a casket.
these guys likely dug up a unmarked gravesite and made up a excuse after prying the coffin-lid off of the land owners great-great-grandfathers brother..
and to their disappointment finding only ELMER’s remains, and no treasure..
so this preposterous excuse about not being able to dig the last 8 feet..
if these guys knowingly tampered with human remains in the pursuit of treasure..like the morons I expect they are…
I beleive there are laws pertaining to disturbing the dead, hoping that their caset/box has treasure in it.. and you KNOW that these guys even realizing its a coffin went into it, expecting it was part of some great conspiracy to better hide the treasure..
they dug up a grave in my best guess.
I just saw the rerun of “NGS” buried treasure show on History Channel. The history of Jesse James was very good and intreging, esp. with the near proof that he was not assasinated. But the treasure hunter portion of the show was absurd.
In my opinion they ended the show because there really was no “box” buried there, and not because winter was coming–the weather looked fine. The “box” looked like it was a few feet below the surface on the scan image, yet they said it was 16ft down??? How in the heck could Jesse dig down 16 ft. and why would he?? Even 8ft[considering hillslope changes] would be deeper than any normal gravesite.