I was appalled with this program on the History Channel. This program presumed to be about Jesse James’ hidden treasure was something that should have been on Looney Tunes, not the History Channel.
This entire program was based on speculation and treasure hunting myths. At no time was there any objective history shown throughout this program.
Why would Jesse James spend time hiding treasure in Kansas? Kansas and Missouri were at war with each other for some five years before the Civil War started in the East. People in Missouri, for the most part, hated Kansans. Why on earth would Jesse do more than pass through that state? There is no data of any kind that places him in Kansas for extended periods of time.
The amount of money that Pastore says the James gang stole is way off base. In this program I understood him to say 1.5 million but in the transcript of the program it says 5 million. Both numbers art way too high. Most historians would place the amount as $225,000 to $250,000.
What on earth is the National Geomantic Survey Organization? Geomantic pertains to geomancy which is a form of fortune telling or magic. It is not science.
Pastore spends a lot of time in caves reading KGC code. Really! There is no evidence the James gang ever hid out in or camped in caves. A cave would be a good place to be easily trapped if you were on the run.
Pastore talks about OBSCURE, 19-TH CENTURY ARCHIVES but never tells us names these archives or tells where he found them. There is a lot of information readily available on the KGC , you don’t need to go to obscure resources. There are reports of KGC activities in the Official Records of the Civil War, in the annual reports of the U. S. Attorney Generals Reports, and in various scholarly publications. I suggest Pastore and Ganis spend a little more time in libraries.
There is plenty more I could say about this very bad program. I hope someone will give the individual at the History Channel responsible for this mess a good spanking!
Nancy B. Samuelson
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VIDEO of the Clay County Board of Commissioners bestowing honor upon our James colleague & friend Charlies Broomfield. Recognition begins at 2:00 min. mark.
Congratulations Charlie!!
We have hints from the Clay County Archives in charge of James Farm in Kearney, Missouri, that a road leading to the farm will be renamed Charles Broomfield Rd. Charlie was a Clay County Commissioner who took an active role in arranging the sale and transfer of James Farm from the James family to Clay County.
Cant say that I understand the significance of this.
Do you have the address of Jesse & Frank James Cabin in Paseo Robles, California?
SLAVE TRADERS AMONG OUR JAMES FAMILY . . . For a decade Stray Leaves has been researching this most distressing discovery. Finally, it’s time to bring this story to light. There’s much to report. The entire story will take time to tell. As we begin, we are also compelled to reconcile what this history means for us. More specifically for those who are now known to descend from these slave traders, whom it can be assumed never knew of this element of their ancestry, but also for the James family as a whole. The resolution will not come easy.
Forks of the Road Slave Market – Violence In Silence
ericjames.org
“Just at the Forks, where the Washington and Kingston, or Palatine roads converge, stood a low squatty frame building used during the winter monthsI ran a DNA test on all the James names I could find in these stories and didn't get 1 DNA match. My DNA is closer to Jesse than that James line is. I am looking into it being through Robert Thomason (step grandfather of Jesse Woodson James) and Julia Ann Singleton (Aunt to Jesse Woodson James).
I am a descendant of Betty G Woodson.
Waterproof, La in Tensas Parish to be more exact.
Tensas Parish. J. G. James and M. Kerrigan.
The King family. Descendants of Viking slayers. archive.org/stream/Kingswood/Kingswood%20reduced_djvu.txt
"In the middle of 1864, Captain Jason W. James was on scouting duty in the southern part of Madison Parish. About eight o'clock one morning he and his company arrived at the Plantation home of Hr. Joshua James on Roundaway Bayou, who also owned the Ione Plantation in Tensas Parish." You will have to read the rest. I am not posting it here. 😲 😲 😲 sites.rootsweb.com/~lamadiso/articles/ward/chap05.htm
And I do believe this James line is connected to Lucille Ball.
And speaking of slave traders. Nicholas Trammell is mixed in with the Carrigans somehow. www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/trammell-nicholas
And I am a descendant of Elizabeth Woodson Thomas. Wife of Captain Edmund King.
I am also showing DNA matches to the James grandparents of Jesse Woodson James and all 8 of his great grandparents. This is what I need help figuring out. All of my James DNA matches will be in the replies to this comment. In this screenshot they are all the white ones
The sons of Colonial Edmund King.
I am a descendant of Mary Joicy who was widow Woodson, mother of Elizabeth Woodson Thomas.
By the way I am not a Kerrigan by DNA. I am a Carrigan. Civil War name change. Descendant of William Michael Carrigan and Nancy Holt. Nancy Holt was the daughter of Michael Holt III and Rachel Rainey. youtu.be/IsK2eSTVW8A
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When this happens, it’s usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it’s been deleted.Where does Lucille Ball fit?
FIND-A-GRAVE BLUNDERS LEAVE JAMES FAMILY HOWLING . . . Can you spot the errata in this Find a Grave post for the grandfather of Frank & Jesse James? The most glaring deception is the photograph!
History tells us the photograph was invented about the time John M. James was dying. Neither history, nor the administrator of this posting, Charlotte Raley McConaha, can tell us is how photographic technology made its way from France to the distant American frontier to take a photo of John M. James, months before his demise.
Another imprecise miscalculation in this post is the attribution of the middle name “Martin” to John M. James. The name never has been proved by evidence. To guess the name is unreliable and wrong.
Well Nancy Samuelson
Between You and this Guy Eric James OH by the way is not Jessie James family member That talks about Shooting People Has given No proof that Mr Pastore Is wrong. Now if someone is shot in the back of the head with A 44, I don’t think there would be Much left of his face, And how did that 44 turn into a 36 round ball that was found inside the skull. So shut the hell up or Come up with unrefutable evidence! on everything that Mr pastore has found
k123m,
I’m quite surprised that Mr. James even included your idiotic comments. Telling someone to “shut the hell up.” Please. Ms. Samuelson’s review of this ridiculous program is spot on. The program was filled with the words “Pastore believes” which is not evidence of any kind. You demand that Ms. Samuelson come up with irrefutable evidence to disprove Pastore? No, it is not the job of Ms. Samuelson to prove a negative; the burden of proof is on Pastore to prove a positive. This he didn’t do. The irrefutable fact remains that Jesse James was killed on April 3, 1882. If you can’t accept that, then the burden is on you to change the history books. You won’t be able to do that, of course, and the fact will forever stand that Jesse James was killed on April 3, 1882. As an aside, I recommend that you take a writing class to learn the basics of sentence structure, capitalization, and punctuation. As it is, you merely come off as an uneducated and gullible boob.
Mel Graf
I just watched the “Hidden Treasure” show which was aired on HInt Network on Tuesday, 10/19/2010 @ 10:00 PM E.T. As a dedicated and successful treasure hunter myself, I was very curious and very interested. I immediately recognized Ron Pastore’s techniques as that of a CHARLATON and a CON MAN (capitalization intentional for emphasis for those who consider themselves grammarians). I was totally appalled at the fabricated evidence presented in this show. I was horrified at the total lack of care used to dig in what may potentially be a historic site containing items of possible historic significance. Using a large backhoe to dig in such a location is akin to doing brain surgery with a pickhammer. Having been a dedicated treasure hunter for nearly fifty years, I immediately recognized Ron Pastore as a con artist! I guess the word “Geomantic” in the name of the organization he was representing says it all. I’m not surprised that the History Channel would air shows like this, many of their shows/series are indeed total fabrications and based purely on speculation. They too really need to consider a name change – perhaps the “Charlatan Channel” might be more appropriate.